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Policy Advisory Committee

Thursday, February 12, 2004
4:00 PM

Conference Room B-104
Valley Transportation Authority (VTA)
3331 North First Street
San Jose, California

Minutes

1.

CALL TO ORDER

The Regular Meeting of the Policy Advisory Committee (PAC) was called to order at 4:06 p.m. by Chairperson Sandoval in Conference Room B-104, Valley Transportation Authority (VTA), 3331 North First Street, San Jose, California.

ROLL CALL

Members Present
Mark Brodsky
Paul Correa
Dennis Kennedy
Breene Kerr
Yoriko Kishimoto
King Lear
Linda LeZotte
Greg Perry
Steve Glickman
Kathleen King
Dolores Sandoval, Chairperson

Members Absent
Dominic Caserta
Dan Furtado
Victor Ojakian
Althea Polanski

A quorum was not present and a Committee of the Whole was declared.

Chairperson Sandoval thanked Vice Chairperson Kishimoto for serving as Chairperson in her absence at the January 15, 2004 PAC Meeting.

Member King expressed concern regarding receiving presentations when a quorum is not present particularly relative to agenda items that require action. She noted that PAC could spend 45-minutes discussing an item that they could not take action on.

Carolyn Gonot, Chief Development Officer, noted that though a quorum could not take action it might be useful for PAC to hear the information if the item was scheduled for Board consideration the following month. If the item was not scheduled for Board consideration until a subsequent Board meeting the agenda item could be deferred to the next PAC meeting where a quorum might be present to take action.

Chairperson Sandoval agreed that that would be a good way to proceed.

The Agenda was taken out of order.

  
4.

Committee Staff Report

Ms. Gonot reported that at the January 30, 2004 Board Workshop the Board of Directors received a list of projects by program area to be considered for the Countywide Transportation Plan. She noted that some cities had not submitted projects for local streets and county roads and asked that the Committee review the project list and provide feedback regarding projects that may have been missed. She reported that the Board of Directors would receive a staff recommended prioritized project list that fits within a proposed allocation for that program area for the Countywide Plan at the February 27, 2004 Board Workshop. She told the Committee that they would receive the Agenda Packet approximately one week prior to the Workshop. Ms. Gonot informed the Committee that they would receive a presentation regarding the Board's February 27, 2004 Workshop discussion of the project list at their March meeting where they would have the opportunity to provide input that would be taken back to the Board of Directors at the March 19, 2004 Board Workshop.

Member Kerr asked if there was a similar process for submitting Bicycle and Pedestrian pathway projects. Ms. Gonot replied there was and offered to work off-line with Member Kerr to discuss the process.

Upon query of Member Perry regarding BART funding, Ms. Gonot noted that the original expenditure plan in the Valley Transportation Plan 2020 (VTP 2020) identified the cost for BART at $3.7 billion. Measure A's allocation was $2 billion with Board options increasing that amount to $2.2 billion which does not cover the full cost of the BART project. She noted the assumption that a package of different monies (new rail starts, STIP, and others) will become available to cover the gap. Member Perry noted that Measure A funds, State Transportation Improvement Program (STIP), Traffic Congestion Relief Program (TCRP), and new starts funds may not be sufficient to complete the project and asked if future bonding is being considered. Ms. Gonot responded that the dollar amounts on the list do not assume bonding and noted that future bonding to move the project forward would increase the cost to the entire Measure A project.

Member Glickman took his seat at 4:13 p.m. and a quorum was declared.

On order of Chairperson Sandoval, there being no objection, the PAB moved to Agenda Item #2., the Public Presentations portion of the Agenda to accommodate John McLemore, VTA Board Member and MTC Commissioner, who was invited to provide information on the proposed merger of the Metropolitan Transportation Commission (MTC) and Association of Bay Area Governments (ABAG).

Member Kennedy took his seat at 4:16 p.m.

  
2.

Public Presentation

Board Member McLemore introduced himself and distributed a copy of an article from the Contra Costa Times regarding the MTC/ABAG decision not to merge. He reported that after six-months of discussion the conclusion not to merge was unanimous. One suggestion he said, was to assign the joint policy work to the Regional Agency Coordinating Committee (RAC) that MTC and ABAG already sit on along with the Bay Area Air Quality Management District (BAQMD). Mr. McLemore said that land use decisions and the issue of traffic and air quality go hand-in-hand, however, ABAG views RAC as a forum for discussion rather than a planning body. In the end MTC and ABAG agreed to form a new joint committee to operate like a city planning commission to review plans and policies and send recommendations to the two full boards. He noted that all of the County Management Agency's (CMA') were against the MTC/ABAG merger and stressed that local cities and CMA's should work together.

Member Lear took his seat at 5:20 p.m.

Member Kishimoto asked if the new joint planning committee would be reviewing the Regional Transportation Plan and housing allocations. Mr. McLemore responded that the committee would be looking at projects rather than regional plans.

Member Gartman took his seat at 5:26 p.m.
Member Kerr left his seat at 5:26 p.m.

 Member Brodsky thanked Mr. McLemore for the presentation and noted that money is about to be spent for high-speed rail and that there is talk about changing the Dumbarton alignment. He said that in the past year he has not been able to find out where discussion of how it all comes together takes place. He said that he had hoped that a MTC/ABAG merger would have provided a place for such discussions. 

  
4.

Committee Staff Report (continued)

Ms. Gonot reported that regarding bonding against Measure A she is aware of existing charts that assume bonding in order to deliver BART and Downtown East Valley (DTEV) by the Year 2015 and noted that when bonding is assumed, the project cost increases, resulting in less money available to the overall Measure A Program.

Member Brodsky noticed that according to the current VTA budget, borrowing money against Measure A is already taking place and asked if that has been taken into account.

Ms. Gonot stated it is estimated that approximately $4.2 billion that would come in by the year 2030 and at that time what was recently bonded would be subtracted.

Member Brodsky requested spread sheets showing current, constant, and future dollars projected for the BART project prior to the February 27, 2004 Board Workshop.

Member Perry provided possible calculation scenarios that produced different numbers and suggested that discounting by 6 percent rather than 3 percent could introduce well over a 50 percent error.

Chairperson Sandoval proposed to Ms. Gonot that how the cost of the projects are being calculated would be a good way to start off the Board Workshop on February 27, 2004.

Chairperson Sandoval noted that when she assumed the position of Chairperson part of what was discussed was that the Committee not dwell on details but rather discuss higher-level policy. She noted that while dollars impact policies and the level of service provided to customers she did not think that all of the members or staff were prepared to discuss project cost calculations at this time and suggested that such a discussion would be more productive using solid information rather than discussing it conceptually.

Member Brodsky agreed that the cost calculation issue should be discussed at the February 27, 2004 Board Workshop and noted that because the public has only two-minutes to speak, accurate cost spread sheets for review prior to the Workshop are necessary to allow for accurate comments during those two-minutes.

Carolyn suggested a review of the materials that will be distributed prior to the Workshop noting that the information requested will be included.

 Member Kennedy left his seat at 5:29 p.m.

Member Kishimoto asked if PAC would review the criteria for the ranking of the VTP 2030 Project List.

Ms. Gonot responded that at the February 27, 2004 Board Workshop the Board will discuss the project list and criteria. Staff will return to the March 11, 2004 PAC meeting with that information as well as any direction the Board may give regarding criteria and to-date public comments received. Staff will take the Committee's input along with public input to the March 19, 2004 Board Workshop.

Member Kishimoto suggested the Board be presented with cost scenarios for bus and light rail as alternatives for DTEV and BART.

  
3.

Minutes of January 15, 2004

M/S/C (Brodsky/LeZotte) to approve the Minutes of January 15, 2004, noting that LeZotte is spelled with a capital Z.

  
5.

Chairperson´s Report

Chairperson Sandoval distributed a list of PAC policy priorities based on PAC Member input on December 11, 2003, and noted that some of the items on the list would be incorporated into 2004 PAC Agendas. She also distributed VTA´s Vision, Mission, and Goals Statement, past and current PAC Bylaws, and the VTP 2030 Project Priority and Criteria List as background information and to provide some insight on PAC´s origin and mission.

At Member Perry´s request during the December 11, 2003 PAC meeting the responses are included in the minutes:

Member Brodsky - City of Monte Sereno
1. Reorganize the VTA - by transferring Outreach to SCC
2. Discuss transit and road funds in a cost-benefit format
3. Rewrite VTA charter to focus on commuter services
Member Caserta - City of Santa Clara
1. Review original mission of VTA
2. Review VTA Fare Policy
3. Review Restructuring Proposal
4. Staying on task in a timely manner
Member Kennedy - City of Morgan Hill
1. Discussion of what constitutes "policy"
2. Review Board Restructuring/greater role of PAC
3. Review VTA financial status and recommendations
4. Review transit performance
5. Review prioritization for funding transit, highway/roads and other
Member Kerr - City of Los Altos Hills
1. Implement public transit to San Jose airport
2. Review paratransit costs and service levels
Member Kishimoto - City of Palo Alto
1. VTP 2030/each sub-region develop their own priorities
2. Discussion of Caltrain vs. BART
3. Discuss restructure/improve VTA
4. Hear presentation to understand MTC/regional vision & debates
5. Raise key issues by other committees to PAC level (oral or written report)
Alternate Member Nesbet - City of Monte Sereno
1. Review Board Restructuring
2. Review levels and routes of service (bus and light rail)
3. Review VTA mission
4. Do any VTA Board Members use bus or light rail to get to the meetings?
5. What is the most compelling reason for drop in ridership
Alternate Member Ojakian - Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors
1. VTA Board organization/composition
2. VTA financial structuring
3. VTP 2030 project prioritization
Member Perry - City of Mountain View<br>
1.
Explore VTA cost effectiveness and cutting waste
2. Discuss Caltrain and ACE
3. Discuss bus routes, improve service efficiency
Former Member Pirzynski - City of Los Gatos
1. Evaluate core downtown shuttle system as supplements regional system
2. Analysis & comparison of rapid bus/express lane system
Member Sandoval - City of Cupertino
1. Enhance leadership and policy role of PAC
2. Review and improve paratransit services

Chairperson Sandoval introduced newly appointed PAC Members Paul Correa, City of Gilroy, and Dean Chu, City of Sunnyvale (pending confirmation) who advised the Committee that John Howe had been appointed the alternate representative for the City of Sunnyvale.

  

BUSINESS REFERRED TO COMMITTEE BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS/ GENERAL MANAGER

6.

Elect a Chairperson for 2004

M/S/C (Perry/Kennedy) to elect Dolores Sandoval as Chairperson for 2004, on a white ballot.

  
7.

Elect a Vice Chairperson for 2004

M/S/C (Perry/Kennedy) to elect Yoriko Kishimoto as Vice Chairperson for 2004, on a white ballot.

  

OTHER

8.

Presentation on VTA Actions to Achieve Financial Stability

On order of Chairperson Sandoval, there being no objection, the Presentation on VTA Actions to Achieve Financial Stability was deferred to the March 11, 2004 PAC meeting.

  
9.

Preliminary Tasman East/Capitol Bus/Rail Service Integration Plan

 Chairperson Sandoval reported that she intended to send e-mail to Ms. Gonot and Peter M. Cipolla, General Manager, with suggestions to move toward less paper being distributed.

Member King noted that she weighed the amount of paper received from VTA in the past two-weeks it was approximately six-pounds.

Mike Aro, Service and Operations Planning Deputy Director, reported that this extension is scheduled to open for revenue service on June 30, 2004 in time for the Fourth of July holiday. This extension begins at Baypointe Station goes to the Great Mall in Milpitas and runs along Capitol Avenue to Alum Rock Station in San Jose.

Mr. Aro reported the proposed integration plan will be reviewed at five community meetings in addition to review by all the Board advisory and standing committees. The final recommendation will incorporate input from the community and the committees for final approval by the Board of Directors later this spring.

The integration plan is the light rail operating plan that also defines bus routing and service levels adjustments associated with this extension. Mr. Aro reviewed the bus routes in the corridor that would be modified due to duplication within the new light rail service. He explained that new feeder routes shuttles would be introduced and some existing routes would be modified. Focal points for the integration of the bus system are three key transit centers: 1) Great Mall Transit Center, 2) Penetencia Creek Transit Center, and 3) Alum Rock Transit Center.

Mr. Aro reviewed current light rail operation with the three existing light rail lines: 1) Guadalupe, 2) Tasman, and 3) Almaden Shuttle. He stated VTA has always considered the Tasman East/Capitol line a simple extension of the Tasman West line, however, in an effort to maximize service delivery and operating efficiency, VTA proposes linking the Tasman West/Capitol line with the Guadalupe line.

Mr. Aro reviewed the rationale for this proposal noting that the operating scenario can and will be revisited if conditions change. The rail system has been designed to accommodate operations changes.

Member Perry suggested that VTA look at: 1) switching the routing of lines 36 & 62 on Berryessa and Mabury to make both more direct, 2) having every other train on the new extension alternate between the Mountain View and Guadalupe light rail lines, 3) taking advantage of the new light rail line on Capitol Avenue, consider eliminating parallel service on Lines 70 & 71.

Member Perry noted that it would be more convenient for passengers to get on at Alum Rock and be able to go through to Mountain View instead of the train turning south at Baypointe Station.

Member King asked if PAC gets into the level of policy that decides which bus goes where.

Chairperson Sandoval asked how many people/organizations have reviewed the plan and determined it is the best level of service. Mr. Aro responded that the plan was reviewed with the City of Milpitas, the City of Santa Clara, and the City of Mountain View as well as with the public through many public meetings.

Ms. Gonot explained that regarding the trips along the new corridor it is believed that customers will be better served by 15-minute headways along the Guadalupe Corridor. She noted that to carry 15-minute headways over to the Tasman Corridor where it is not needed would result in operating losses rather than savings. Ms. Gonot stated that there is option for change in the future if necessary however this action makes sense from the operational cost savings point of view.

Dean Chu, City of Sunnyvale, said he believed that Member Perry is suggesting that half of the lines on the Tasman East would run all the way across from East to West preserving the 30-minute headways and the other half, although it would be more complicated to schedule, would run back and forth from Baypointe to Santa Teresa and that would preserve 15-minute headways on the Guadalupe Line and 30-minute headways on the Tasman Line. Mr. Chu noted that the Transportation staff of Sunnyvale agrees with the idea. He also noted that Sunnyvale staff asked how the need for two-car trains on the Tasman East Line is determined and suggested that one-car trains be used initially to see if it is feasible noting that running half of the trains as one-train cars across to Tasman West would probably result in cost savings.

Mr. Aro said that one of the issues with that scenario would be that it would create alternating service and he was not sure that a 4-minute layover schedule at Baypointe could be maintained if trains are run all the way through.

Member Glickman noted the issue that Member King raised and being a new member also wanted to understand the role of PAC and wanted to know what entity would focus on the details such as where buses go if not PAC?

Chairperson Sandoval said that she thought that all of the other committees that the plan had gone through would have focused on details. She expressed concern that a timing issue remained to be worked out because the target to roll out the plan is June 2004. She noted that the plan had received input from community groups and there had been discussions where the cities theoretically had already provided input to the proposal. She noted that at some point a plan needs to be created and then carried forward and implemented. She noted PAC is struggling with balancing policy with micro management and that was why she distributed the background information earlier. Chairperson Sandoval suggested different groups need to talk about the detailed work. She stated that at the West Valley Mayors and Managers Meetings the cities get together and discuss VTA issues and noted that she is not aware of any other city grouping that discuss VTA issues in any depth. She suggested that PAC is not the only body that should be discussing VTA priorities, policy, and projects that are coming down the pipeline and in a two-hour meeting we should not be expected to be the only body that discusses these issues in full. This does not mean we should shirk our responsibility and feel like we cannot ask questions but at some point we must move on.

Member Glickman noted that if light rail is supplanting what previously was entirely bus he questioned if it was appropriate to think of the nearby bus routes as feeders because if that were the case he assumed they would not run parallel but across to feed into the new line. Mr. Aro responded that the perpendicular lines were feeder routes and the other lines serve the area adjacent to the rail line in an attempt to provide service coverage throughout the County.

Member Kennedy responded to Member King´s earlier question regarding the role of PAC and recalled, being a member who has served on PAC over many years, that PAC has always wrestled with how much time to devote to the issues and what is policy versus detail. He said some cities have transportation staff but some do not, therefore this is often the only opportunity to address some of these issues. He noted that PAC is supposed to be devoted to policy but sometimes it makes sense to get into this kind of details because it might be the only opportunity as a city to address these issues. He noted that imposing time limits on these types of issues or some sort of prioritization schedule for the agenda might be in order.

Member Kerr noted that the comments regarding parallel routes does relate to policy. He said that if the feeder system has been adopted on the east side then why not implement the feeder system on the west side?

Member King noted that the City of Saratoga has a small staff also but believes if there are concerns regarding an item it should go back to City staff.

Member LeZotte noted that PAC is the only place that all 15 cities have a chance to look at issues. She stated that as policy makers it is important that all members comment and go back to their staff for discussion and then return to PAC with additional questions and or comments. With regard to parallel bus routes she said she did not believe it is the intent of the Tasman East/Capitol Extension to supplant parallel bus routes from the east side as that is a most transit dependent population. She noted for example, to have a student who is currently taking Bus Line 77 to get to school it is not feasible to take a feeder up to light rail and then take a feeder back down. She noted that the parallel bus routes are meant to serve multiple purposes and that many of the parallel bus routes will always carry more passengers than the light rail. She believes that the intent is to attract passengers to use the light rail to get to other parts of the county.

Member Brodsky referring to the PAC Bylaws and VTA´s Vision and Mission Statement argued that that discussion regarding how the bus routes integrate with the light rail line is policy issue.

Member Kennedy returned to his seat at 5:32 p.m.

On order of Chairperson Sandoval, there being no objection, the Preliminary Tasman East/Capitol Bus/Rail Service Integration Plan was reviewed.

Member Kerr returns to his seat at 5:34 p.m.

  
8.X.

Fare Modification Update

David Sausjord, Revenue Services Manager, advised PAC that they would have an opportunity to provide formal comment on the Proposed Fare Modifications again in April 2004.

Member LeZotte left the meeting at 5:40 p.m.

Upon query of Chairperson Sandoval, Mr. Sausjord reported that the proposed fare modifications would go to the Standing Committees for discussion in April 2004 and again in May 2004 for action, and would be presented to the Board of Directors for adoption in June 2004.

Mr. Sausjord provided a brief history and overview of the proposed fare modification reporting it is part of an effort to reach a Board defined farebox recovery target of 20 to 25 percent over the next two to three years.

Chairperson Sandoval proposed that PAC retain the Board Memorandum and bring it back to the April 2004 PAC meeting eliminating the need for the document to be mailed out a second time. She asked PAC members to email Mr. Sausjord with any further questions in order to discuss the farebox recovery policy in depth.

Member Kennedy inquired if the fare rates affect the ECO Pass. Mr. Sausjord explained that the Fare Policy adopted in December 2003 established a standard rate no recommendation for change is being made.

Member Brodsky suggested that reducing operating cost as an alternative to raising the cost of fares.

Member Kerr noted that operating efficiency rather than fare subsidy could result in increased savings. He expressed concern that increased fares may discourage ridership and stated that his overall policy goal is to increase ridership.

Member Perry expressed concern that fare increases may discourage ridership.

Member Kishimoto stated that she would not mind paying $3.50 on an Express Bus to travel to work however $1.75 seems excessive for short hops and suggested that if that rate is going to be implemented perhaps the $1.75 fare could be guaranteed for two hours or a transfer could be provided.

On order of Chairperson Sandoval, there being no objection, the Fare Modification Update was discussed.

  
10.

Proactive CMP Quarterly Report

Ms. Gonot provided a brief overview of the Proactive CMP Quarterly Report.

On order of Chairperson Sandoval, there being no objection, the Proactive CMP Quarterly Report was received and filed.

  
11.

Announcements

Ms. Gonot announced that the VTP 2030 Countywide Transportation Plan meetings are listed on the web at www.vta.org and noted that six public meetings will be held.

Chairperson Sandoval informed Committee Members that Joanne Benjamin had invited Joe Pirzynski to speak to the Committee. Mr. Pirzynski stated that this was impromptu and not agendized. He distributed a handout prepared by Joanne - VTA Board of Directors Schedule for Representation 2000-2009. Mr. Pirzynski noted that PAC members eventually become alternates to the Board of Directors and that the PAC Meetings were the only place in the organization where all member agencies are represented at the table at one time. He asked the Committee Members to break into city groupings to answer the following questions: 1) What are the most significant transportation issues in your city grouping at this time? 2) How do your significant issues fit into the broader regional issues? 3) What is your position related to restructuring? 4) Do you want to get together formally and maybe have VTA send a representative to each city grouping and do you want to create an ongoing regular format?

Mr. Pirzynski asked that answers be e-mailed to Joanne Benjamin and stated that part of the restructuring effort was to have PAC become a more substantive organization in terms of feedback methodology and noted that restructuring may not need to be as radical as initially thought if the city groupings could begin to meet and have dialog.

  
12.

Adjournment

On order of Chairperson Sandoval, there being no objection, the meeting was adjourned at 6:10 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,

Barbara R. Cappa,
Board Assistant VTA Board of Directors